Well, staff has done a great job of building up my respect over the past few months of communication, so I'm certainly not indicating anything too negative.īut as has been noted before, true or not, there's the common belief that you can continue to break rules and get away with it, while new users get no leeway whatsoever. Sure, you can SAY "this time it's final," but it's not like we've much encouragement to believe it :'P If the first doesn't actually exist, then there's really no hope for a final resolution on some of the more exasperating users, and that just emphasizes the "people get endless strikes if they're repeat abusers, but new users are treated far too harshly" element that many of us have noted. Perma-suspensions are ridiculously common to stumble across on the site, in large part because certain users keep coming back from them. We're referring specifically to the first. We were told there's a difference between perma-ban (Which you can never come back from) and perma-suspension (which you can). Scammer probably doesn't even understand that he probably killed another indie dev or company, which will most likely never sell things on steam anymore. Still, I'm sad that people are ripping off game developers. If my post helped at least one user to understand better potential risks of using the website such as this, then I'm happy that I wrote it. I don't like to call it so, because in fact nobody is selling anything here, but there WERE cases when people got into trouble JUST by activating an illegal key, and as you may guess - they weren't even aware of that fact. And that's why SG in fact can be called as grey market, because you can't verify that every user making a giveaway here is legit. If you buy thing off grey market, then sell it in legit shop, does it in any way changes the fact that it was obtained illegally? Moreover, that shop that is trading the thing further should be considered as grey market too, right? They didn't obtain the item legally either. I didn't mean to insult you, I wasn't sure if you actually used sarcasm or really believed in what you've written. This smells so fishy that I'd say it's almost your own fault for falling into the trap, even if we both know that you didn't do anything wrong. He gave away the same game in mass quantities, he's been selling the same game in mass quantities to other people, in exchange for other games. I mean of course, there is a chance that those giveaways are legit and creator will deliver those games, but the chance is almost none, and in this case the chance for legality of those games was similar. It's almost the same as those people who are joining 3 copies of GTA V given away by new user. If I told my child the sentence you wrote above, I also wouldn't have bad intentions to insult him or make him sad, I'd mean it more like a joke and a lesson to him, how to not do the same mistake twice. But Ekaros didn't mean to insult anybody. Winner didn't do anything wrong, he just had bad luck, happens to everyone of us. If you use SG, which means that you win and activate gifts/keys from other people, then you should also be aware of the fact that they might not be obtained legally, and be prepared for eventual consequences. Because it has a point, although it's not obvious.
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